PINE 3.96 MESSAGE TEXT Folder: INBOX Message 485 of 488 ALL Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 18:34:01 EDT From: PLGNNadia@aol.com To: kwamina@mailexcite.com, hayley@global.co.za, eric@yikes.com, SPRKSLisa@aol.com, tomjan@taide.lt, toni@an.org, yuri@expert.osf.lt, sid@lin.lkg.c3.hu, lbreeden@earthlink.net, PLGNSheva@aol.com, Montale127@aol.com, PLGNNadia@aol.com, turchanyi.geza@matav.hu Subject: Rave and Rant questions for Geneva Hey. How's it going? This is Nadia, and here are the final questions for the Rave & Rant. Thanks, those of you who sent me stuff for this. And the rest of you, get with the program! ;) Please send me your answers by the 7th of July. Just say what's on your mind. Don't hold back. 1) Are teens treated differently online than they are in real life? 2) How would you make the Internet accessible to teens who don't have access? 3) Is our Internet use creating a new reality or a false sense of reality? I hope to see all your answers. Goodbye, Nadia --- Sun Microsystems Inc. SunOS 5.5.1 Generic May 1996 $ ssh an.org PINE 3.96 COMPOSE MESSAGE Folder: INBOX 488 Messages To : PLGNNadia@aol.com Cc : kwamina@mailexcite.com, hayley@global.co.za, eric@yikes.com, SPRKSLisa@aol.com, tomjan@taide.lt, yuri@expert.osf.lt, sid@lin.lkg.c3.hu, lbreeden@earthlink.net, PLGNSheva@aol.com, Montale127@aol.com, turchanyi.geza@matav.hu Attchmnt: Subject : Re: Rave and Rant questions for Geneva ----- Message Text ----- On Thu, 2 Jul 1998 PLGNNadia@aol.com wrote: > 1) Are teens treated differently online than they are in real life? By adults you mean? My first shot would be: no. Could also be yes, though. Depends how you look at it, on definitions: * What's a teen? I mean, do you define it by biological age or somekind of social(?) maturity? It probably has to do with both. In our language with the young people in Finland I would understand teen, "teini", as a childish inexperienced naive attitude towards life that some kids and (young) adults have. It can be perhaps cute in some cases but definitely not an admirable attribute when it comes to things that matter. "teinirakkaus", teenage love, for example sounds like vague experimental first (pitiful :) attempts to .. love. Like not real love but teenage love. The word used to be different, though. A friend of mine who's a bit older and knows this stuff is telling on IRC at the moment how being teenager used to be something uniting, something to be proud of. Like in the 50's, or I don't when, they had a teenage union in Finland .. guess that was the Beatles / Rock'n'Roll times when the whole youth is said to have basically be sharing the same youth culture. Anyway, if someone on IRC or news/mailing discussions appears to have the teen attitude I don't think anyone really respects them. That way the answer would be: no, teens are treated just the way they always are. Another thing is that on the Internet, like in also many of old media like books and music, people of young age can work better as they are not confronted with that much prejudices when age/gender/whatever does not matter. I guess this is what you where after? Also the fact that kids often know the technology better than adults (described for example in Tapscott's book) makes adults to listen them perhaps in a different way and questiones authority. > 2) How would you make the Internet accessible to teens who don't have access? Kindergartens, schools, libraries and universities traditionally provide access quite equally. Also the fact that the I-access becomes cheaper all the time, like the telephone did, and also much of the content is there for "free", meaning financed by ads like TV, in a way makes it more equal. I'm afraid I don't have any special ideas here. (work on the .lib-sector and perhaps in dev. countries) 2b1 ... > 3) Is our Internet use creating a new reality or a false sense of reality? I hope it's a better tool than the old ones, like books, TV, faxes, telephones etc. to deal with the *actual* reality. This is a trendy opinion now as movements like have been getting stronger. Internet brings people closer so that there is less mediating but more direct personal contacts instead. On the net it's also really easy to check several sources to confirm the information. So my wish that our new reality is less false than the previous ones :) That's perhaps our motivation, religion, to be in this business. > > I hope to see all your answers. > Goodbye, > Nadia > ^G Get Help ^X Send ^R Rich Hdr ^Y PrvPg/Top ^K Cut Line ^O Postpone ^C Cancel ^D Del Char ^J Attach ^V NxtPg/End ^U UnDel Line ^T To AddrBk [No default action in the Message Text screen.] ? Help M Main Menu P PrevMsg - PrevPage D Delete R Reply O OTHER CMDS V ViewAttch N NextMsg Spc NextPage U Undelete F Forward